[Lazarus] Suggestion: Remove GTK1 support from IDE and LCL.

[Krisztián Nagy]

First some facts:
I've checked some popular distros about supported gtk+ version.
Moving to 2.12 means supporting
Debian: back to 5.0 Lenny released 2009/02/15 - 15 months ago (see
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=debian)
Ubuntu: back to 7.10 Gutsy released 2007/10/18 - 31 months ago (see
...=ubuntu)
Fedora: back to 8 (werewolf) released 2007/11/08 - 30 months ago (see
...=fedora)
openSUSE: back to 10.3 released 2007/10/04 - 31 months ago (see ...=suse)
Mandriva: back to 2008 released 2007/10/09 - 31 months ago (see
...=mandriva)

While the current state (supporting 2.6) means supporting
Debian: 2005/06/06
Ubuntu: 2005/04/08
Fedora: 2005/06/13
openSUSE: 2005/04/15
Mandriva: 2005/04/14

To summarize, now Lazarus supports systems being up to 5 years old, while
changing to 2.12 would mean supporting < 2.5 years old
systems, except for debian, which in fact is a widely used distro (AFAIK)
but it's 2007 release only supports gtk+ 2.8.20.
So much for the facts.

For my opinion, I think such decision requires sufficient knowledge
regarding the users of lazarus, how many users do we have running different
systems, and what are their opinion or requests.
I know in open source users are also developers and that this list is also
open for users (as in fact I am also a user and not developer) but are there
any information available based on which we could make such decision? If not
shouldn't we gather it? (by making a platform for it, for example having a
"start page" showing up first time you run lazarus with links urging users
to share their thoughts and information (register) (and other useful links)
like many other IDE has, or creating polls or anything (just ideas).

Sorry if I said something irrelevant or stupid, I'm relatively new to this
list. Just trying to share my ideas.

cheers
Krisztián

2010/5/15 Marco van de Voort <marcov at stack.nl>

> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:52:04AM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
> > > will be much better and GTK2 is already replaced with something better,
> so you
> > > can skip it. :-)
> >
> > Hopefully Lazarus would have reached v1.0 by then. :-)
> >
> > What I find strange though is that GTK2 is now at 2.30 (I think), yet
> > Lazarus developers (and users) are still talking about *not* bumping
> > the lowest supported GTK2 from 2.6 (I think) to something newer.
> >
> > 2.6 -> 2.30 is a lifetime apart! Surely it's time Lazarus starts
> > taking advantage of GTK2 features that have appear in the last 5+
> > years of GTK2 development? LCL-Qt was very quickly bumped from Qt v3
> > to Qt v4, so why not GTK2?
>
> The trouble is that many stable and enterprise distributions are simply
> old.
> These versions are still being deployed.
>
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