[Lazarus] fpweb for delphi?

[Lee Jenkins]

Dimitri Smits wrote:
> Waldo Kitty wrote:
>> On 5/28/2010 05:03, Bee Jay wrote:
>>> On 27 Mei 2010, at 18:56, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I don't think we will do this. It will require too many changes.
>>> Yes, I've seen the code. fpWeb has a very tight dependency to other fcl
>>> packages. Poor Delphi people. ;)
>> serve's'em right... what's that old saying? ya get what ya pay for? i think
>>  getting a whole lot more for free is much better... wonder what it costs
>> to get the full sources to delphi? :lol: :P
> 
> where everybody gets the idea that Delphi does not provide web frameworks, I
> don't get. Websnap, other frameworks, standard Apache mod projecttypes
> (templates) for 1.3, 2.0 and 2.2, CGI...
> 
> and that was just in D7 already!
> 
> God (and Delphi 2010 buyers) know(s) what they have in there nowadays!
> 
> On the other hand, why anybody would want to develop new webapps (on new
> db's) in delphi or fpc for that matter seems a bit like a
> one-tool-in-my-toolbox mindset. "If all you have/know is a hammer, every
> problem looks like a nail."
> 

When your language is a kick ass swiss army knife on steroids for everything 
else under the sun, its easy to look first to what you already know and have at 
hand for the solution.

> There are other languages far more suited for webdevelopment! PHP, Perl,
> Ruby(-on-rails), java, silverlight.net, ... Especially when the
> client(s)/user(s) use small webhosting. While you may find that they offer
> php AND CGI, you may not find out the (processor)architecture or flavor of
> linux so that you even CAN compile your CGI, let alone run it safely on the
> hosting provider's machine(s). You only sometimes have (a somewhat limited)
> shell access to their machine anyway. And as for a "product", you need to use
> the greatest common denominator anyway. So that pretty much leaves you with
> php anyway ;-)
> 

Is it more convenient with interpreted/jited languages to deploy your 
application?  Sure.  Would I like FPC apps to be that easy to deploy?  Sure. 
Does it make a difference?  Depends on the application I guess.  If you're 
writing a shopping cart to sell to end users, I'd say yes.  If you're writing an 
application in house or substantive enough to deserve a VPS account starting at 
$20.00 or a dedicated rack box for what, $100?  I'd wager that a good portion of 
end user's web applications will stay on a inexpensive VPS of varying 
prices/horsepower as use goes up well before a dedicated rack server is 
required.  If/when a rack server becomes necessary, I'd wager it will be a most 
welcome expense for you/your customer.  Please remember to donate to worthy 
causes :-)

For micro customers:
http://www.webkeepers.com/vps/vps_compare.html

LinNode.  Some gave me this link here or delphi groups:
http://www.linode.com/faq.cfm

Dedicated:
http://www.hostingsource.com/advanced_server_plans.php

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Warm Regards,

Lee