[Lazarus] Crowdfunding to speed up the development of pas2js in Lazarus Widgetset and fpDebug to FPC

[Travis Ayres]

I know that I haven't donated because there is no breakdown of funds spent,
technical items achieved, conferences held, books published, articles
printed, industry partners, etc.

There doesn't seem to be any organization or progress with the foundation.
There isn't even a listing of FPC/Lazarus users groups worldwide, etc.

It doesn't seem like a foundation at all.

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018, 2:42 PM Edivando via lazarus <
lazarus at lists.lazarus-ide.org wrote:

> Boa noite,
>
> Estava me informando melhor a respeito da fundação freepascal
> ([url]https://foundation.freepascal.org/about[/url]) para onde os fundos
> de
> doações são redirecionados. Uma Página Web pouco profissional para os
> padrões de hoje. O estatuto da fundação diz estar sendo traduzido para o
> inglês e devido a isso não está disponível no site (muito estranho isso
> devido a tanto tempo de existência da fundação) e a opção para afiliação
> está indisponível pois o estatuto está sob revisão(outra coisa muito
> estranha para uma fundação com tanto tempo de existência e existir apenas 3
> filiados).
>
> Acho que com uma política assim quem usa as ferramentas FPC/Lazarus/Pas2JS
> como uma solução completa para sua Software House  fica um pouco apreensivo
> por uma parte fundamental da fundação (A Gestão da fundação) ficar em
> segundo plano.
>
> Vejo que se a comunidade quer ser projetos feitos usando as soluçoes
> FPC/Lazarus competitivas no cenário de TI temos que modernizar também essa
> situação pois parece que o interesse da comunidade não está sendo ouvida
> pela fundação da melhor forma possível.
>
> Eu mesmo estou tentando dar ideias para uma revitalização da comunidade com
> novos nichos de contribuições e fui questionado pelo Michael com o seguinte
> texto:
>
> [i]“Why do you need a separate crowdfunding effort, if the Free Pascal and
> Lazarus foundation has been created specially for this ?
>
> Michael.”. [/i]
>
> Não sei dizer se o michael seria o mesmo “Michael Van Canneyt (secretary)”
> secretário da fundação Free Pascal, mais se for o mesmo fica um pouco
> estranho questionamentos como esse pelo cargo que ele representa.
>
> Busco acima de tudo que meus produtos construídos com as soluções
> FPC/Lazarus  sejam competitivos no mercado e somente com uma política de
> colaboração transparente e efetiva vejo isso possível.
>
> Repito gostaria de ver iniciativas crowdfunding onde esse processo de
> doações fosse mais transparentes e mais efetivas para o interesse dos
> doadores.
>
> Peço a colaboração da comunidade que discuta sobre o assunto pois não
> adianta dar prioridade a detalhes pontuais tais como ícones, métodos
> anônimos, compatibilidade com alguma plataforma em desuso por grande
> período, quando o futura está jogando na nossa cara que só vamos permanecer
> com os nossos projetos (Sistemas e Códigos Legados) se o grupo central de
> desenvolvimento FPC/Lazarus/Pas2js forem transparentes com relação aos
> rumos
> a seguir, bem remunerados e permitir a participação da comunidade com
> relação às tomadas de decisão sobre os novos horizontes a seguir. Coisa que
> nao estou encontrando a cada dia que passa me aprofundando mais na
> comunidade.
>
> Atenciosamente
>
> Edivando, Brasil
>
> ----------------------------- [b]Google Translate[/b]
> -------------------------------------
> Good night,
>
> I was being told more about the freepascal foundation
> ([url]https://foundation.freepascal.org/about[/url]) where donor funds are
> redirected. An Unprofessional Web Page by today's standards. The statute of
> the foundation claims to be being translated into English and because of
> this it is not available on the site (very strange because of the existence
> of the foundation) and the option for membership is unavailable because the
> statute is under review strange for a foundation with so much time of
> existence and to exist only 3 affiliated).
>
> I think with such a policy anyone who uses the FPC / Lazarus / Pas2JS tools
> as a complete solution for their Software House gets a little apprehensive
> as a key part of the foundation (The Management of the foundation) stand in
> the background.
>
> I see that if the community wants to be projects made using the competitive
> FPC / Lazarus solutions in the IT scenario we have to modernize this
> situation as well, it seems that the interest of the community is not being
> heard by the foundation in the best possible way.
>
> I myself am trying to give ideas for a revitalization of the community with
> new niches of contributions and I was questioned by Michael with the
> following text:
>
> [i]"Why do you need a separate crowdfunding effort, if the Free Pascal and
> Lazarus foundation has been created specially for this?
>
> Michael. "[/i]
>
> I do not know if Michael would be the same "Michael Van Canneyt
> (secretary)"
> secretary of the Free Pascal Foundation, but if it is the same it gets a
> little strange questionings like this for the position he represents.
>
> I seek above all that my products built with FPC / Lazarus solutions are
> competitive in the market and only with a transparent and effective
> collaboration policy do I see this possible.
>
> I repeat would like to see crowdfunding initiatives where this donation
> process would be more transparent and more effective for the interest of
> the
> donors.
>
> I ask the collaboration of the community that discusses the subject because
> it is no use to give priority to specific details such as icons, anonymous
> methods, compatibility with some platform in disuse for a long period, when
> the future is playing in our face that we will only stay with our projects
> (Legacy Systems and Codes) if the central FPC / Lazarus / Pas2js
> development
> group are transparent with respect to the next, well-paid course and allow
> community participation in decision-making on the new horizons to follow.
> Thing that I'm not finding every day that passes me delving deeper into the
> community.
>
> graciously
>
> Edivando, Brazil
>
>
>
> [url]https://foundation.freepascal.org/about[/url]
>
> [b]About[/b]
>
> The Free Pascal and Lazarus foundation is a non-profit organization whose
> goal it is to promote Free Pascal and Lazarus programming. It also acts as
> a
> sponsor for Free Pascal and Lazarus development: it attempts to raise funds
> and sponsors specific features in the Lazarus and Free Pascal projects.
> It does not own the Free Pascal or Lazarus code base, and the inclusion of
> new features is always subject to the approval of the Free Pascal or
> Lazarus
> teams.
> Legalese
> The Foundation has been established as a non-profit foundation in The
> Netherlands as "Stichting Programming Free Pascal & Lazarus Foundation."
> It has its official address at Edelstenenbaan 21, 3402 XA IJsselstein.
> The bylaws and official statutory documents of the foundation will be
> published here, as soon as they have been translated to english.
> Currently, the foundation has 3 members:
> Detlef Overbeek (Chairmain)
> Michael Van Canneyt (secretary)
> Boian Mitov (Treasurer)
> People wishing to become a member can apply here.
>
>
> [url]https://foundation.freepascal.org/register[/url]
>
> [b]Register as a member[/b]
>
> The bylaws of the foundation are currently under revision.
> As soon as they are complete, they will be put on the website for your
> consideration,
> and at that time the registration page will be completed.
>
>
>
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