First some facts:<div>I've checked some popular distros about supported gtk+ version.<div>Moving to 2.12 means supporting</div><div>Debian: back to 5.0 Lenny released <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, generic; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">2009/02/15 - 15 months ago (see </span><a href="http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=debian">http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=debian</a>)</div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, generic"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">Ubuntu: back to 7.10 Gutsy released </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; ">2007/10/18 - 31 months ago (see ...=ubuntu)</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><br>
</span></font>Fedora: back to 8 (werewolf) released <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, generic; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">2007/11/08 - 30 months ago (see ...=fedora)</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, generic; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">openSUSE: back to 10.3 released </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, generic; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">2007/10/04 - 31 months ago (see ...=suse)</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, generic; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">Mandriva: back to 2008 released </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, generic; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">2007/10/09 - 31 months ago (see ...=mandriva)</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, generic; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, generic; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">While the current state (supporting 2.6) means supporting</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, generic; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">Debian: </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, generic; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">2005/06/06</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, generic; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">Ubuntu: </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, generic; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">2005/04/08</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, generic; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">Fedora: </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, generic; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">2005/06/13</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, generic; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">openSUSE: </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, generic; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">2005/04/15</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, generic; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">Mandriva: </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, generic; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">2005/04/14</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, generic; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><br></span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, generic"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;">To summarize, now Lazarus supports systems being up to 5 years old, while changing to 2.12 would mean supporting < 2.5 years old</span></font></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, generic; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">systems, except for debian, which in fact is a widely used distro (AFAIK) but it's 2007 release only supports gtk+ </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, generic; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">2.8.20.</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, generic; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">So much for the facts.</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, generic; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, generic; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">For my opinion, I think such decision requires sufficient knowledge regarding the users of lazarus, how many users do we have running different systems, and what are their opinion or requests.</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, generic; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">I know in open source users are also developers and that this list is also open for users (as in fact I am also a user and not developer) but are there any information available based on which we could make such decision? If not shouldn't we gather it? (by making a platform for it, for example having a "start page" showing up first time you run lazarus with links urging users to share their thoughts and information (register) (and other useful links) like many other IDE has, or creating polls or anything (just ideas).</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, generic; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, generic; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">Sorry if I said something irrelevant or stupid, I'm relatively new to this list. Just trying to share my ideas.</span></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, generic"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"><br></span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, generic"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;">cheers</span></font></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, generic; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">Krisztián</span></div><div><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2010/5/15 Marco van de Voort <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marcov@stack.nl">marcov@stack.nl</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="im">On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:52:04AM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:<br>
> > will be much better and GTK2 is already replaced with something better, so you<br>
> > can skip it. :-)<br>
><br>
> Hopefully Lazarus would have reached v1.0 by then. :-)<br>
><br>
> What I find strange though is that GTK2 is now at 2.30 (I think), yet<br>
> Lazarus developers (and users) are still talking about *not* bumping<br>
> the lowest supported GTK2 from 2.6 (I think) to something newer.<br>
><br>
> 2.6 -> 2.30 is a lifetime apart! Surely it's time Lazarus starts<br>
> taking advantage of GTK2 features that have appear in the last 5+<br>
> years of GTK2 development? LCL-Qt was very quickly bumped from Qt v3<br>
> to Qt v4, so why not GTK2?<br>
<br>
</div>The trouble is that many stable and enterprise distributions are simply old.<br>
These versions are still being deployed.<br>
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