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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">01.07.2023 10:59, Sven Barth via
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Maxim Ganetsky via lazarus
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schrieb am Fr., 30. Juni 2023, 15:48:<br>
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16:44, Maxim Ganetsky via lazarus пишет:<br>
> 30.06.2023 14:27, Martin Frb via lazarus пишет:<br>
>> On 30/06/2023 12:51, Michael Van Canneyt via
lazarus wrote:<br>
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>>><br>
>>> On Fri, 30 Jun 2023, Juha Manninen via
lazarus wrote:<br>
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>>>> On Friday, June 30, 2023, John Landmesser
via lazarus <<br>
>>>> <a
href="mailto:lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> perhaps that should have become 3.00
?<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Lazarus *3.99* (rev
main_3_99-41-g3d8dd85474) FPC 3.2.2 <br>
>>>>> x86_64-linux-gtk2<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> You are looking at trunk, the
development version. See :<br>
>>>> <a
href="https://wiki.freepascal.org/Version_Numbering#Lazarus_3.0_and_newer"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://wiki.freepascal.org/Version_Numbering#Lazarus_3.0_and_newer</a><br>
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>>> You might want to add some explanation for
this new versioning <br>
>>> scheme to that page. <br>
>><br>
>> Added.<br>
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> I made some improvements, hope it is even more clear
now.<br>
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>>> The graph does not help.<br>
>>><br>
>>> From what is currently there, I don't
understand neither the logic <br>
>>> nor the need of this change.<br>
>> "Need"... Well, in terms of "because it solved
the issue xyz" => then <br>
>> there is no need.<br>
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> Basically, version numbering is all about
"marketing". By always <br>
> increasing major version we tell to the general
audience that major <br>
> release indeed contains major changes (which is
always the case).<br>
><br>
> So we solve/improve "marketing" issues.<br>
><br>
BTW, in my opinion FPC has similar issues and will benefit
from such <br>
approach to versioning too.<br>
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<div dir="auto">In FPC the major number *has* a meaning, namely
that there have been significant changes in the code
generator. Towards the 2.x series it was the rewrite of the
different backends and for the 3.x series it was the
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<div dir="auto">The minor number is then to signify a new
release with many new features on top of the same base
architecture and the release number is then to differentiate
between development and stable. <br>
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Wow, I did not know this. Thanks for clarification. But see below.<br>
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<div dir="auto">We don't follow "marketing". </div>
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<p>The main motivation behind our change was the following:
versioning should reflect development workflow. We didn't have
concrete criteria for differentiating between major/minor version
increase.</p>
<p>Everything else is basically a side-effect of versioning scheme
simplification.</p>
<p>Still, I have a feeling that "marketing" issues (and yes,
versioning is very small fragment in this picture) are grossly
underestimated.</p>
<p>I know for sure:</p>
<p>1. News about major Lazarus releases felt into "mini-news"
section on some news websites.</p>
<p>2. Users were confused about Lazarus versions (you can not
believe it, but still).</p>
<p>3. People (general audience not following development process)
simply don't understand when major version is not increased for
prolonged periods (in case of FPC it is like 10 years?) and tend
to think that the project is stagnating.<br>
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Best regards,
Maxim Ganetsky <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ganmax@narod.ru">mailto:ganmax@narod.ru</a></pre>
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