[lazarus] To see what I mean about the traffic

Michael Van Canneyt michael.vancanneyt at wisa.be
Tue Feb 27 11:14:19 EST 2001




On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Marco van de Voort wrote:

> > On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Marco van de Voort wrote:
> > 
> > > > Peter Vreman wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > In the tallbacks there were some negative things about lazarus. Most
> > > > > were from commercial developpers that can afford to buy kylix and have
> > > > > to deal with time to market.
> > > > 
> > > > Yeah I read those too. Kinda of discouraging. Yeah well see them squawk
> > > > when they are asked to port their product to OS/2 or FreeBSD or Solaris,
> > > > etc.
> > > 
> > > I think also when the first larger projects get deployment problems to other
> > > distributions or modified (upgraded by hand) standard distributions.
> > 
> > Yes, this is one of the things I wrote in my article about Kylix.
> > There is no setup tool _ la 'installshield' or 'wise'; given the 20+ 
> > libraries that are needed to run a Kylix application, this will give 
> > some nice setup problems. Especially since they require specially 
> > patched linux loaders and glibc versions.
> 
> Moreover, the buggyness of Kylix atm, will spawn some fix-versions and soon
> new versions, which will increase different sets of libs, or libs with
> slight incompabilities with eachother.
> 
> The total of these things will create something to which the windows
> DLL-hell will be a non-issue.

I _seriously_ doubt that. Try deploying an app that needs to access
2 or 3 databases, and you'll see what I mean. Total hell, especially
now with all the windows version floating around these days. From 
Win95A,Win95B Win95B+USB support WinNT 4.0 (SP 1-6)(Workstation/Server) Win2000 to Win ME.
Our helpdesk here have become experts in determining exactly what version 
of windows is running even when the other side of the phone is totally 
moronic and can't even select a file in the explorer. 

Just to say that I don't think the problems will be worse, but there
will be enough problems to warrant a decent setup tool on linux.
RPM by itself doesn't qualify in this case, IMHO.

Michael.






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