[lazarus] FreeCLX and Kylix news!

[Jon Cochran]

On Tuesday March 20 2001 04:06 pm, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Jon Cochran wrote:
> > On Tuesday March 20 2001 03:42 pm, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
> > > On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Jon Cochran wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday March 20 2001 03:18 pm, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
> > > > > Another thing is that the CLX still contains some pretty basic
> > > > > functionality failures, which I hope Borland will fix soon.
> > > >
> > > > Out of curiosity, what is CLX missing?
> > >
> > > Simply put: All needed libraries to make it useful.
> > >
> > > - No C wrapper library sources for Qt.
> > >   So forget about VisualCLX unless you own Kylix.
> >
> > 	Not gonna argue this one...
> >
> > > - No DBExpress, no Midas libraries. The useful database units that
> > >   are provided _NEED_ these libraries.
>
>  	You still will have clientdata set and whatnot...
>
> Of course, but they don't work without Midas. The clientdataset is just
> a TDataset wrapper around the Midas lib. Without midas library, no
> TClientdataset, no MyBase, nothing.
>
> What you HAVE is TDataset, and this is an abstract class, so it needs
> descendents.
>
> The two usable descendents that come with Kylix, notably: TSQLDataset (and
> some variations) and TClientDataset needs libraries that are not available.
>
> -> you end up without any DB support at all.
>

	That's not true at all...   MIDAS isn't required.....  and I do think you 
get the DB libs....   you just don't get the drivers for some things like 
Oracle.   They're not part of CLX.

> >   really, other than DB drivers, which you *should* pay for, what else do
> > you need?
>
> Well, the libraries to make it work. The driver is no good without the
> dbexpress library. Which you don't get...
>
> And I hope you'll agree that paying for a Mysql driver when Mysql itself is
> free would be strange :)
>
	So would they, and I'm sure that's why it's free. 

> > > - All NetCLX components are missing altogether.
> > >   So no apache or server development, unless you use Indy.
> >
> > 	Indy is free.
>
> Yes, but Apache module development is out, as well as CGI development.
> You can't do those with Indy. (not without re-implementing NetCLX, that is)
>
> > > Not to mention that:
> > >
> > > - The system unit is only useful for Kylix, because you need special
> > > compiler magic to make it work. Which compiler has this ? Kylix only.
> >
> > 	Does this matter?  Wont' lazarus provide it's own equiv?
>
> Yes. All I wanted to say with that is that making the system unit publicly
> available is pretty useless, since it'll only work with Kylix anyway.
>
> That said: I've worked with Kylix for some months, and I've seen it improve
> a lot. Don't think I am against it, far from it, I even wrote an article
> about it which earned the publisher some congratulations from Borland
> itself, so...
>
> ...but I am a bit sceptical about the 'open source'-ness of Kylix.
>
> (and about some other things about Kylix as well, but that is another
> story)
>
> Michael.
>
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