[Lazarus] Lazarus Portuguese translation situation

[Paulo Costa]

On 31/08/2011 20:00, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:
> 2011/8/31 Flávio Etrusco<flavio.etrusco at gmail.com>:
>> Paulo said he already discussed and he
>> doesn't see a shared translation to be feasible.
>
> And he presented 10 words as proof, of which we could easily agree
> with some compromise to choose a version for 6 of them, which would
> leave only 4 different words ... really silly to fork a translation of
> 4000 items for 4 words!

Those words were a quick sample, there are more, somewhat problematic, 
that I did not present because I was not sure yet on what alternative I 
would like to use.

I was please by your effort to reach a compromise, my main skepticism is 
if you can push that compromise over the pt_BR maintainer. And if 
sticks. There is the risk that in a year or two those changes are 
reverted to the more Brazilian forms. That would prompt another round of 
this discussions...

 From your proposal:

On 31/08/2011 13:13, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:
 > I think we can reduce the list a lot if we can just make some
 > comprimises. I'll start with which words I think should be no problem
 > for brazilians to use the portugal variant:
 >
 >> User - Usuario - Utilizador
 >> File - Arquivo - Ficheiro
 >> Mouse - Mouse - Rato
 >> Screen - Tela - Ecrã

If you can push that to the pt_BR version...

 > None of these can be simply the brazilian variant? Or else simply slash.
 >
 >> Reset - Redifinir - Restaurar
 >> breakpoint - ponto de parada - ponto de paragem
 >> Load - Carregar - Abrir

Here, only "parada" is really strange in Portugal. We only use it like 
"subir a parada". The others I took from the way Micosoft uses in the 
pt_PT version of Windows. I know, that's not a strong argument for some 
minds :)

 > All of these seam fine the portugal variant, although "Load" depends
 > on the context.
 >
 >> Save - Salvar - Guardar

Again not very troubling.

 > Can't be the brazilian one? Or else simply slash.
 >
 >> registers - registradores - registos
 >
 > Which context? CPU Registers? If yes, then slash. If for database,
 > then "registro" is fine.

I think the context was CPU registers.

 >> policy - regra - política
 >
 > Política reminds too much of "politics". Can't be the brazilian
 > variant? People don't use the word "regra" in Portugal?

No problem here, "regra"(rule) is more low level but it is acceptable.

I have talked with other Portuguese Lazarus and, like me, they use the 
English version, so an agreement that spares me a lot of work is fine.

Like I, said I think you won't be able to push your proposed changes 
over the pt_BR version and going with separate ways minimizes 
trouble/work for everybody in the end, but let's see...


Paulo Costa