[Lazarus] *** GMX Spamverdacht *** Re: Lazarus (UTF8) and Windows: SysToUTF8, UTF8ToSys... Is there a better solution?

[Marcos Douglas]

On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Sven Barth <pascaldragon at googlemail.com> wrote:
> On 28.12.2013 14:25, Marcos Douglas wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Florian Klämpfl
>> <florian at freepascal.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Am 28.12.2013 13:37, schrieb Jürgen Hestermann:
>>>>
>>>> Am 2013-12-28 13:19, schrieb Florian Klämpfl:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I understand. But if the major companies prefer to use C# or Java
>>>>>> instead Delphi well, they not care about Delphi compatibilities. If
>>>>>> they care, why they would be leaving Delphi?
>>>>>
>>>>> If they leave Delphi compatibility, they normally don't go for a
>>>>> marginal oss compiler.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The question is:
>>>> Why did they use Delphi before at all?
>>>>
>>>> If the reason was that Delphi was a very common and widespread
>>>> programming environment
>>>> then it is a understandable behaviour to move to the next main stream
>>>> environment
>>>> as soon as budget and time allows.
>>>> Such people would never care about FPC/Lazarus (even when it was fully
>>>> Delphi "compatible").
>>>> They would never think about using it.
>>>> So making FPC/Lazarus "compatible" would not hold any user of this
>>>> group.
>>>
>>>
>>> The world is not only 1 and 0. FPC lives (and living means getting
>>> usefull code!) from being delphi compatible but filling the niches
>>> delphi leaves open. Everything else is "by-catch".
>>>
>>>>
>>>> If the reason was that they like Pascal as an easy to learn and
>>>> mantain language then they will invest into migration even
>>>> if not all parts are the identical to Delphi.
>>>> Just the opposite:
>>>> They may like that not all misconcepts are repeated in
>>>> FPC/Lazarus and they may like that it is open source.
>>>
>>>
>>> GPC proved your argumentation wrong. GPC took the "clean way" of
>>> extended pascal (you always complain about fpc's dyn. arrays. Just use
>>> GPC, it has the clean solution) Unfortuntaly GPC development stopped for
>>> years due to missing contributors.  The people keeping FPC alive are
>>> those interested in Delphi compatibility.
>>
>>
>> Right.
>> I didn't understand one thing: If I'm a Delphi XE2 programmer
>> (suppose), why I will need to keep FPC compatible with Delphi? If I'm
>> a Delphi programmer I will use... Delphi.
>
>
> Because you (the XE2 programmer) might look at Delphi XE5's NewGen compiler
> (the LLVM based one) and think: "What the f*** are they doing with the
> language?! O.o"
> Or you might want to be compatible to more platforms than provided by Delphi
> XE2 or you might want to keep using a VCL compatible GUI library on other
> platforms whereby in Delphi you need to use FireMonkey here.

Ok, understood and just for clarify I'm not a XE2 programmer... I said
"suppose".

Regards,
Marcos Douglas