[Lazarus] About Arabic translating in Lazarus

[Marc Weustink]

Hi,
I'm sorry to hear this happened. Before Maxime became involved in 
Lazarus translations, I applied most translation updates. At that time, 
I could understand some translations, while for others I had to trust 
the submitter. One time I even got an update where the translator made 
some "joke" translations. Short after that I got another update from 
him, apologizing for the bad translation. His own community corrected him.
If there is no feedback, we don't know about the correctness of a 
translation. In the current case, the Lazarus team has only one member, 
Mazen, understanding Arabic. He had some Valid comments about the 
"quality" of some parts of the translation. Which resulted in a rollback 
of the patch.

Now that I have read your part of the story of the 2 schools, I better 
understand the remarks Mazen made. I fear it is a matter of "taste" in 
this case what translation is used. Your efforts are not lost. They are 
still in SVN, only not "visible". I hope you can get in touch to "solve" 
the issue on what translation style should be used.

I Agree, it is sad to see that we "lost" 90% of a translation.

Marc



Khaled Shagrouni wrote:
> Hi
>
> I cannot see the point in throwing away all the translations made (94%
> of project messages, 7830 translated messages in 62 file) and bring it
> back to the situation it was long years ago (4%, 321 messages translated
> in 1 file) just because of one person view .
>
> Regarding Arabic translation of technical terms and UI elements there
> are two different schools:
>
> 1- Traditional (which I believe Mazin represent), this school believes
> that all translation must follow the old Arabic language spirit and
> style and uses dead vocabularies known one thousand years ago.
>
> 2- Modern, which flows with the evolution and development of the
> language during last decade. And it is de facto now.
>
> The followers of the traditional school will not agree on the concept of
> “Modern Arabic” and afraid that The Arabic language will split in two
> parts. (Also there is a nationalism and religion issues). But this is
> the life and most of the languages experienced such evolution, the
> result of this school translation will be weird and sometimes funny
> (imagine a software UI in Shakespearean Language).
>
> I am aware that there are a lot of poor quality Arabic translations out
> there in some open source projects (weak Arabic, blindly depends on
> TM/MT, lack of knowledge on the subject).
>
> Apparently the quality of the translation I submitted is in a question,
> and I say it again, because of one person opinion whom had happened to
> be an Arabic translation maintainer.
>
> I consider myself good in Arabic language, I am a freelance translator,
> I did a lot of translations in different subjects for government and
> companies (reports, articles and technical manuals), I am also a
> software developer for more than 25 years, and I have two translated
> books under my belt on software engineering and Object Pascal.
>
> I did the Lazarus translation with passion; it took me several months, I
> even developed my own Po file editor to ease and speed up my work, it
> just feel bad seeing my contribution discarded without even bringing the
> subject up for discussion with other members before taking this decision.
>
>
>
>
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