[Lazarus] Graeme would love this, or not, I think

[Hans-Peter Diettrich]

Marco van de Voort schrieb:
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 12:25:25AM +0200, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
>> For writing programs you need some editor and an compiler/linker, e.g. a 
>> Lazarus IDE which runs on a variety of systems. Then students can learn 
>> how to use a console (window) for program I/O in about 1 hour, 
>> sufficient for the following introduction and practice in "The Art of 
>> Computer Programming" [Knuth].
> 
> Either your students were different, or that is very optimistic :)

Yes, I was thinking of IT students. Sorry for that :-(

> In this class, all this simply ate too much time, and even after students
> were ackward with it. And it was only 9 x 1.5 hr, then an hour is still too
> much.

Then a good ole homecomputer (C64 emulator...) would be more useful ;-)


>> Creating and using a GUI can become a 
>> detached course, covering both the general GUI design principles and how 
>> to master event driven applications.
> 
> My point was that TP was too alien, and the tricks to keep it running
> prevented it for students to run it on their own laptop.

ACK

> Delphi on the other hand invited too much play.

This energy could be used in extra (voluntary) courses, where the 
interested can learn more about using Delphi.

> The ideal usage IMHO would be a stripped lazarus/Delphi without designer,
> and some skeleton application under "new" that instantiates a skeleton GUI
> app (delivered in .ppu), and the students can use procedures from their
> programs to use the skeleton units.

In your timeframe (9*1.5 hrs) I wouldn't address GUI programs at all.

DoDi