[Lazarus] [Fwd: Re: Is Lazarus a Delphi plagiat?]

Gustavo Enrique Jimenez gejimenez at gmail.com
Sat Jan 30 00:05:38 CET 2010

Hi all:

Just google "linux pascal compiler". Period.


2010/1/29 Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1 at aol.com>:
> IMO a good add-on to the "Lazarus is invisible?" thread.
> Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
> DoDi, your attitude does not help the Lazarus image. Lazarus, like many
> (most?) OS projects *is* difficult to understand when looking through the
> eyes of a person not yet familiar with Lazarus or the organization of the
> web
> pages/documentation. Most OS devs have grown with the project and have never
> seen the steep hill in front of the newbie.
> Just go to the Lazarus web page (http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/) and
> look
> for installation instructions -  nothing visible...
> But there is a FAQ (assuming everyone knows what a FAQ is) - nothing about
> installation...
> But there is a Wiki (assuming everyone knows what a Wiki is) - nothing
> obviously about installation...
> But there is the Lazarus Documentation section, now we're getting somewhere
> -
> Yes! After the tutorials is a user guide and finally I have found the link
> "2.1 Installation". Click...
> And I get a new page which has the link "Installing Lazarus" at the top -
> Now
> we're really getting close. Click...
> And I get a new page where I optimistically select the first link,
> "Overview"
> - Click...
> And I get a text beginning "For people who simply want to install Lazarus
> and
> start using it for programming, the easiest approach is to download and
> install a recent, reasonably stable binary release (such as a Linux ".rpm"
> package, a Windows ".exe" installer, or a Mac OS X ".dmg" package). You can
> read the sections under Linux or Windows entitled "fpc binaries" or the
> first
> paragraphs in the sections on installing Lazarus in Linux or Windows; most
> of
> the remaining information can be safely ignored."
> So, safely ignoring most of the document I walk along trying to find the
> first paragraph on installation in Windows (maybe a link would have been
> good?). OK, fastest way was to go Back and find the appropriately named
> header and Click... on that.
> And I get a new page which begins "The current releases of the Windows
> Lazarus binary packages install very easily, and should work
> 'out-of-the-box'. ", then follows a pageful of discussion (!?) about
> installing on a USB drive.
> So, we have "...simply want to install L. and start using it..." and
> "...work
> out-of-the-box...". No links to any "Getting started" section, no indication
> that anything special is needed to get going.
> This complete lack of any information about what happens after installation
> makes you "just start it and try it". And when *that* doesn't work out of
> the
> box, you throw it away.
> Now, for the record, I have downloaded Lazarus quite a number of times and
> started to test it, I have gotten a "Hello World!" program to compile and
> work in Windows, and that's about it. When I tried to port a Delphi project
> I
> drowned in incompatibilities (not Lazarus/FPC's fault, but that was what
> stopped me). When I tried to cross compile for some linux, I drowned in the
> "you need version this of that and..." swamp (still not Lazarus/FPC's fault
> but that was what stopped me).
> I do believe Lazarus/FPC can be used for serious programming, but the
> learning curve is much too steep for me.
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