[Lazarus] Lazarus (is completely borked) on Ubuntu Oneiric

[Mark Morgan Lloyd]

Flávio Etrusco wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:48 AM, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
> <felipemonteiro.carvalho at gmail.com> wrote:
>> No, absolutely not. You didn't even show any evidence that the problem
>> is in Lazarus.
>>
>> As far as I can tell all problems are in Unity, so you could propose
>> them to add a dialog saying that it breaks Lazarus (among other apps):
>>
>> http://kenkinder.com/2011/05/18/why-ubuntu-11-04-unitys-reviews-are-so-bad/
>>
>> --
> 
> Please be serious. Of course the bug isn't "in Lazarus" (besides the
> fact we certainly seem to be doing something unconventional WRT
> ScrollableArea) but the important thing is user experience. Ubuntu
> currently doesn't need/want Lazarus. I guess we want Ubuntu?

I'd suggest that it's down to whoever packages Lazarus for Debian/Ubuntu 
to wrap the IDE in a script that acknowledges that there are problems 
with some desktop/WMs, and indicates why. I don't think it's the 
responsibility of the core project to try to detect what's calling it, 
either at build or execution time, since that could introduce more 
problems than it solves.

Unity is certainly generating a lot of controversy, as are Gnome v3 and 
KDE v4, and it might be best for Lazarus to wait until things settle 
down and the GUI originators reach consensus before trying to 
accommodate them.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/05/linus_slams_gnome_three/

> And actually, Lazarus svn + latest Oneiric is pretty buggy even on
> OpenBox (LXDE), messing up z-position (e.g. showing dialogs below
> editor) and having erratic mouse capture/behavior frequently.

With the usual health warning attached to versions pulled directly from SVN.

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Mark Morgan Lloyd
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