[Lazarus] Promoting Lazarus: A Case Study Video

Lukasz Sokol el.es.cr at gmail.com
Wed Feb 25 13:11:47 CET 2015

Hi Anthony,

On 25/02/15 09:43, Anthony Walter wrote:
> Lukasz, the motivation is to highlight the quality of software which
> Lazarus can produce, and create really simple to use installers for
> Windows, Mac, and Linux. I noted when I went to setup Lazarus on Mac
> recently just how difficult I was. The end goal is to draw more
> people to Lazarus.

With this being the goal, I'd think you should probably try to get some
recognition from the Team so at least they may consider putting 
your link or banner/link in visible place... if they do that,
I'll be much less skeptical.

> Regarding why create a site apart from the main Lazarus site. I think
> every sane person can understand more sites promoting "brand x" help
> make that brand both in terms of visibility and average user
> acceptability.

Whether creating entirely separate site with separate content does do that,
I'm not entirely convinced... Some real world examples, case studies please ?

More use of Lazarus's logo / markings / links (with acceptance of the Team that is)
would make it feel less detached from original. 

Right now, it all feels (to me) more detached from the original than 
my 'blurb' filter is ready to accept.

> Personally, I am working on (with some friends) a few very large free
> open source projects (which will be LGPLed) which are soon be
> released. I am currently working with a broadcast media person who us
> lending their voice to a few videos we're producing. These videos
> will be like the one I already post, including annotations and now
> voice. We will be walking potential Lazarus users through some demos
> which I feel are particularly nice. As such, I feel like controlling
> the website where this material is going to be released will help
> insure the quality of the both the material and its presentation.

Excuse me for being not /entirely/ convinced... you're producing
more and more bold claims, which are again seemingly too high frequency 
for my low-pass blurb filter... Videos are a nice touch, I'll give you that.

I still don't like what http://www.getlazarus.org/setup/?download#linux does :/
getting a feeling like accessing these dodgy download sites in the 90's...

(I just edited the setup page seemingly to that effect, would you accept that change? 
 - remember someone else complained about it too...)

Also I like the concept of installation from packages more, than a random
script downloaded directly from some servers...

( I'm a ordinary user living on Debian stable + backports, about the only
 extravaganza in my system is MBOFF for Firefox and Thunderbird, as
 I don't like the fuss about *weasel and *dove they do ;) so I know how to add
 a line to sources.list and use it. As a bonus I'd get any fresh releases
 installed/refreshed from your repo automatically if you considered that,
 and uninstallation/reinstallation would be less intrusive probably.
 Can't help you with packaging process though, sorry. )

> And finally, in my work I tend to make heavy usage of anything which
> makes life easier, and this includes many of the great language
> features Sven Barth on which has been working for years. Heavy usage
> of things like generics with constraints, class and record helpers,
> implicit/explicit conversion (for example controverting TColor
> implicitly to TColorB or THSL). I realize that not every either has
> as versions of Free Pascal and Lazarus with support for these
> features, and as I what I do is well received, I also want to make it
> easy for people to get versions of which support these features, with
> the least amount of trouble (bugs). So I would like to push Lazarus
> forward and help people get the newer versions.

That starts to look like the more proper motivation to me here, thanks...
Still would appreciate if you reached out to original Team and worked 
with them, take some of their suggestions should they have any.

No wiki approach can make this happen, though

Looking forward to that. 

> I'll leave you with a small clip of the new advanced drawing
> interfaces we'll be releasing, which are a much smaller part of one
> of the afore mentioned projects.
> http://www.getlazarus.org/videos/crossgraphics/



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