[Lazarus] Who is using Object Pascal in production?

[Fabio Luis Girardi]

I'm using Object Pascal to develop a lot of real SCADA applications. You
can see some of then in:

http://www.pascalscada.com/pb/screenshots/

Some applications are made by me or my company (Eletromep), others by
friends or people that have contributed with PascalSCADA project.

2017-10-27 14:12 GMT-02:00 Marcos Douglas B. Santos via Lazarus <
lazarus at lists.lazarus-ide.org>:

> On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Michael Van Canneyt
> <michael at freepascal.org> wrote:
> >
> > Where to start ?
> >
> > Go is a very nice language, but is very difficult to get to work with
> > external libraries. Writing imports can be next to impossible.
> > Our server needs to do LOTS of things that simply cannot be done in Go,
> > since Go doesn't have the necessary functionality (or libraries, or
> modules)
> > so we'd need to offload that to C libs, which kind of defeats the
> purpose.
> >
> > Java would be a possibility, but
> >
> > a) I don't know Java so well. Java is HUGE.
> >
> > b) Then you need to deal with the Java VM and Tomcat and whatnot.
> >    Not pleasant. Recently we had a java service completely unresponsive
> for
> >    30 seconds, it was doing GC... Not acceptable at all.
> >
> > Node.js is nice for some scripting, but IMO Javascript is not suitable
> for
> > large
> > applications. Complete absence of type checking or any form of
> compilation
> > is a disaster for large projects.
> >
> > Additionally, when using Node.js, you almost inevitably come into contact
> > with npm.
> > We built some mobile apps using a web runtime, and typical usage for
> Node.js
> > is packaging of the app. This typically uses npm.
> >
> > npm pulled in 1200+ npm packages (100+mb), to pack an application of 1200
> > lines
> > of javascript. Not a joke. I actually checked. And to pack an
> application in
> > essence means:
> > creating a zip. IMO the people using node.js and npm are deluded, to
> allow
> > such a mess.
> >
> > Suffices that 1 of the 1200 packages for what reason whatsoever is
> broken,
> > retracted or whatnot: the whole system comes crashing down...
> >
> > (The upcoming pas2js can target node.js, and I am confident you will not
> > need npm.)
> >
> > To make matters worse, javascript developers have no sense of time.
> > They actually think that completely breaking backwards compatibility
> after 2
> > years is OK.
> > For example, the change of Angular to Angular 2 (and subsequent changes)
> > made me decide that Angular is unsuitable for development - despite all
> the
> > nifty features.
> >
> > The average lifetime of applications I make is many many years.
> > So, backwards compatibility is VERY important.
> >
> > So. For all these reasons, I use Object Pascal. I can take my 10 year old
> > application, recompile, and be reasonably sure it will still work.
>
> WOW... Actually, you have good reasons. I liked.
>
> I am asking this because sometimes I cannot make a project if I say
> that will be coded in Object Pascal.
> I have heard a client saying: We use C# or <choose one>. We don't have
> more Pascal programmers to maintain this.
>
> To develop desktop apps, it's not a problem. But if it will be a web
> app, could be.
> I will use your text, next time.  :)
>
> About performance, do you believe that FastCGI is good or even better
> than these other technologies?
>
> Best regards,
> Marcos Douglas
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-- 
The best regards,

Fabio Luis Girardi
PascalSCADA Project
http://sourceforge.net/projects/pascalscada
http://www.pascalscada.com
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