[Lazarus] The future of the Lazarus IDE

Ralf Quint freedos.la at gmail.com
Sun Nov 24 21:45:54 CET 2019

On 11/24/2019 10:47 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys via lazarus wrote:
> On 23/11/2019 10:43 pm, Ralf Quint via lazarus wrote:
>> I personally loath VSCode just as much as VS itself (or XCode, for that
>> matter) or Eclipse.
> I haven't really used VSCode, but as far as I understand, it's a editor,
> not an IDE. The other point being, that it doesn't run on FreeBSD - a
> platform I use very often.
Don't care about FreeBSD, but it might just be the "modern" thing that 
someone else (Ryan?) mentioned why I loath both VS and VSCode. It could 
be for a good part that I am used to the Borland (WS) keyboard mappings 
and the general editor behavior, after almost 40 years, those have 
become second nature (and are thoroughly missed whenever I have to use 
some other environment).
> Web only apps is not really my cup of tea. I
> don't always work where there is good any any internet.
Same here. Specially with the added discomfort of the recent PSPS 
(Public Safetly Power Shutdown) in our area, which are supposed to 
become a more common thing now, where we had twice in 10 days the power 
out for 30h and 38h respectively, which also means that during that 
time, there is no Internet service either (and no phone, TV and those of 
us here not on public water supply but on a well, without water, if they 
didn't have a separate generator for the well pumps). With a generator 
running to keep the fridge and freezer running as well as basic 
lighting, I could at least work just fine on my laptop for two long days 
programming in Lazarus, only interrupted by feeding the dogs and 
refueling once in a while the generator. And I am within the LA 
metropolitan area, just minutes from the sprawling urban area...
> As for your comment about Eclipse. Just recently I boasted to Michael
> about how awesome Eclipse and IntelliJ are (I do Java development these
> day). They are like night and day compared to Delphi or Lazarus. The
> amount of feature, how well they understand your code, the refactoring
> ability, debugging features etc are all out of this world.
I don't do Java anymore, if I can by any means avoid it. There are a few 
other reasons why once in a while I might be forced to use Eclipse (or 
one of its derivatives) and it is just a bloated, slow as molasses carp...
> As for XCode - now there I fully agree with you. I helped out on our iOS
> product for a while. XCode is just weird. :-)
Weird would be an extremely nice way to put it. At least they lowered 
the amount of masochism necessary when starting to transition from 
ObjectiveC to Swift. Not that this would overall make it more palatable...


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